4 out of last 5 episodes have been great. It's almost like they completely revamped the writing team from the beginning of season 2. Hope it stays this course.
27 Reviews
Show is on a roll
magnum-ajt8 March 2019
No *clunk* moments.
stultissimiamatorii1 June 2021
You know those moments that just fall flat, that ring false for military characters or that make you think that a couple minutes' thought by the writer could have produced something that doesn't make you feel like you could have written better? None of those.
And it's nice to have a security chief who seems like a real security officer. It isn't a physical issue (though the last actress looked like a single punch would shatter her bones) but one of attitude. Not Garibaldi's level of paranoia but just the right level of caution and nothing to prove to herself.
And it's nice to have a security chief who seems like a real security officer. It isn't a physical issue (though the last actress looked like a single punch would shatter her bones) but one of attitude. Not Garibaldi's level of paranoia but just the right level of caution and nothing to prove to herself.
Back at its fighting weight
MiketheWhistle8 March 2019
The show finally adds back the comedy that has sadly been missing this entire season. Whether or not this is enough to keep the series going is a good question.
I will note that the premise of whether to turn over someone who had been a POW, escaped, and then made war on the enemy not knowing there was a cease fire is totally bogus. In the real world it's called what POWs are supposed to do.
Felt Very Star Trek
imaginelovinglife9 March 2019
Fantastic writing, engaging visuals, likeable, believeable characters
capecoral-937769 March 2019
What more could you ask for in a hybrid comedic space opera? I thought they burned all their creative fuel on the previous story arc "Identity," typically the episode following an arc in sci-fi serials tends to be rather weak. And yet the Orville delivers even more class A entertainment as the tenous relationship between the Krill and the humans hangs in the balance.
Just got back from watching Captain Marvel and all I kept thinking on the way home was, if anything deserves a proper Motion Picture, it's the Orville, because there's a lot of turkeys out there on the big screen right now.
I know it will probably never happen, but I believe Orville:The Motion Picture would be truly amazing. Imagine an epic fight between the K-lons the Krill and the humans in Real 3D and Dolby 7.1. *Boom*
I know it will probably never happen, but I believe Orville:The Motion Picture would be truly amazing. Imagine an epic fight between the K-lons the Krill and the humans in Real 3D and Dolby 7.1. *Boom*
Way better than STD!
loumia8 March 2019
Orville is back!!
MartyisGreat8 March 2019
Just add nitrogen
d.rust8 March 2019
Warning: Spoilers
Admiral Perry is back on the screen with news that the Krill are looking to talk about sitting down to talk about getting together to talk about maybe talking about peace. The complicated part of this gab-fest is that Gordon's buddy from 20 years ago has shown up in a Krill shuttle with his daughter having escaped from Krill prison and they want him back bad, or there'll be no talking about talking about sitting down to talk. Period.
ENTERPRISE principal John Fleck (Silik the Suliban) is in the mix and the whole situation is complicated. Claims and counter-claims are made, people snarl and samples are taken and all Mercer wants to do is get it all resolved and get the ball rolling. Will Gordon's buddy Orrin go willingly? Will Ed get his accord signed? Will Dann get a date with somebody, anybody? You'll have to watch the BEST SCI-FI SHOW on TV to find out.
ENTERPRISE principal John Fleck (Silik the Suliban) is in the mix and the whole situation is complicated. Claims and counter-claims are made, people snarl and samples are taken and all Mercer wants to do is get it all resolved and get the ball rolling. Will Gordon's buddy Orrin go willingly? Will Ed get his accord signed? Will Dann get a date with somebody, anybody? You'll have to watch the BEST SCI-FI SHOW on TV to find out.
Blood of Patriots
bobcobb30122 March 2019
Warning: Spoilers
Was it a predictable episode? You bet, but that doesn't mean it doesn't work.
These intergalactic rivalries are interesting, but I think we need a map or an explanation of who is who or something. Explaining why these people are the enemy would make this kind of story matter more.
These intergalactic rivalries are interesting, but I think we need a map or an explanation of who is who or something. Explaining why these people are the enemy would make this kind of story matter more.
I Thought It Was Fun
Hitchcoc25 June 2022
I love the people who take things so seriously and release their venom. This is all made up you know. Seth MacFarlane is a comedian and began this show with different intentions. The plot was intriguing in the "what if" genre. Of course the guy who lost his family to the Krill and spent 20 years in a prison camp was going to be a bit on the unbalanced side. The plot to find his methods was interesting. One thing they skipped: "What happened to his female compadre"?
Cue the sci-fi tropes
Leopold00513 March 2019
Warning: Spoilers
After an incredible two-parter in a show, it's common for the following episode to be a bit lacklustre. So here is "Blood of Patriots", with so many classic sci-fi tropes your head will spin:
Crew party interrupted by the HQ - check Sworn enemy is considering a peace treaty - check A character appears who looks like they will threaten the talks - check Said character has a pre-existing relationship with a crew member - check Said character has someone with them who is not all they appear - check Enemy wants character returning to them or all bets are off - check Character is regarded with suspicion for no immediately apparent reason - check Crew member has altercation with captain over character - check Character does suspicious things so you know they're not on the level - check Character asks crew member to steal a shuttle - check (and it's always a shuttle!) Crew member agonises over choice between character and duty - check Crew member appears to break protocol to help character - check The other person turns out to not be who we thought - check Character reveals what the real deal is when it's almost too late - check Crew member saves the day - check Crew member is rescued at the last second - check Peace treaty negotiations end well - check Crew member and captain have a cosy chat and all is well again - check Nobody mentions the fate of the other person - check
Hell, they even brought in a reboot of the holophonr from Futurama!
It's not that I didn't enjoy the episode. It was good, very much in the mould of Roddenberry's Star Trek. But the plot was derivative and the ending was predictable, which detracted from the episode. That and the tropes.
Crew party interrupted by the HQ - check Sworn enemy is considering a peace treaty - check A character appears who looks like they will threaten the talks - check Said character has a pre-existing relationship with a crew member - check Said character has someone with them who is not all they appear - check Enemy wants character returning to them or all bets are off - check Character is regarded with suspicion for no immediately apparent reason - check Crew member has altercation with captain over character - check Character does suspicious things so you know they're not on the level - check Character asks crew member to steal a shuttle - check (and it's always a shuttle!) Crew member agonises over choice between character and duty - check Crew member appears to break protocol to help character - check The other person turns out to not be who we thought - check Character reveals what the real deal is when it's almost too late - check Crew member saves the day - check Crew member is rescued at the last second - check Peace treaty negotiations end well - check Crew member and captain have a cosy chat and all is well again - check Nobody mentions the fate of the other person - check
Hell, they even brought in a reboot of the holophonr from Futurama!
It's not that I didn't enjoy the episode. It was good, very much in the mould of Roddenberry's Star Trek. But the plot was derivative and the ending was predictable, which detracted from the episode. That and the tropes.
When did 'he' escape?
mehveldman28 April 2019
Warning: Spoilers
Several reviews talk about Orrin Channing, the POW , who does not know about a ceased fire, escapes and straight after this blows up enemy ships.
That is exactly what one should expect from a patriotic, heroic POW! As such the whole story is rotten..
However.. I think there is a much more likely scenario, one where LT Channing escaped quite a while earlier and only blew up these ships to try and stop these peace talks. It would be highly unlikely for him to find this 'explosive daughter' in a Krill POW camp or on the run from one.. A danger like her would not be put in some camp with others and a runaway POW in enemy space will not go around meeting all kinda random strangers.
Sadly the episode really did not go in to this and my explanation also has some problems, like the question why Channing did not contact The Union after his escape or if he did, why there was no record of this. Still, there are more reasonable explanations possible for this then for the problems with the other scenario.
That is exactly what one should expect from a patriotic, heroic POW! As such the whole story is rotten..
However.. I think there is a much more likely scenario, one where LT Channing escaped quite a while earlier and only blew up these ships to try and stop these peace talks. It would be highly unlikely for him to find this 'explosive daughter' in a Krill POW camp or on the run from one.. A danger like her would not be put in some camp with others and a runaway POW in enemy space will not go around meeting all kinda random strangers.
Sadly the episode really did not go in to this and my explanation also has some problems, like the question why Channing did not contact The Union after his escape or if he did, why there was no record of this. Still, there are more reasonable explanations possible for this then for the problems with the other scenario.
Mildly good, yet derivative.
implaxis6 July 2022
Just ignore the major plothole
brentjohnson-431358 March 2019
Warning: Spoilers
While the 'feel' of the episode was very much in line with what we've seen from The Orville (good thing), building an episode based on a false premise completely removes all plausibility.
Assuming that the crew of The Orville have watched old episodes of Star Trek, which we should assume they have as they seem to be stuck on 20th century media for some reason, they should know that you NEVER EVER skip a medical scan for new arrivals!
Assuming that the crew of The Orville have watched old episodes of Star Trek, which we should assume they have as they seem to be stuck on 20th century media for some reason, they should know that you NEVER EVER skip a medical scan for new arrivals!
Best Episode of the season
garabedian12311 March 2019
Good episode
jeff-cossey8 March 2019
While I enjoy the show overall I wish they would stop living in an our century with their way of communicating.
It's like say you go out and have a conversation with someone but instead of today's way of talking you're speaking in the dialect or tongue of the 1700's, it would be very odd and some of it not very understandable.
This is not a deal-breaker put it is annoying as is some of the off-putting humor. I feel like chain of command is ignored.
These reminder knit picks I very much enjoy the show and ideas that I always wished Star Trek would have been embraced.
Cloaking! Seat belts! and when there's emergency people actually are running to get to where they need to be it feels like in Star Trek they were at a brisk walking pace. Lol
These reminder knit picks I very much enjoy the show and ideas that I always wished Star Trek would have been embraced.
Cloaking! Seat belts! and when there's emergency people actually are running to get to where they need to be it feels like in Star Trek they were at a brisk walking pace. Lol
Here I am, stuck in the middle with you
MrGoog8 March 2019
Warning: Spoilers
******SPOILER ALERT******
Star Trek connection - John Fleck, who played the Krill Ambassador, played different characters in The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and Enterprise.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." (Thomas Jefferson, 1787)
"You don't trust me, do you? I don't blame you. If there is to be a brave new world, our generation is going to have the hardest time living in it." (Chancellor Gorkon to Captain Kirk, 'Star Trek VI - The Undiscovered Country')
This episode reminds us how difficult the road to peace can be. Whenever nations - or worlds - wage a very bloody war, there always will be those on both sides who never will accept peace, who always will thirst for vengeance.
After Ed presents the Sapphire Star to Yaphit for his heroism during the battle with Kaylon, Admiral Perry (again played by Ted Danson) contacts Ed and Kelly with historic news: the Krill want to negotiate a peace treaty with the Union. Ed will play an important role in the first step: the Orville will meet a Krill destroyer at Tarazed III, where he and a Krill Ambassador will sign a Lak'vai Pact (a Krill agreement to begin peace talks).
When the Orville arrives at Tarazed III, they find the Krill destroyer (the Dovoro'kos) firing on a Krill shuttle. The pilot of the shuttle requests an emergency docking on the Orville, and Ed allows it. On board the shuttle are, apparently, two humans: Lieutenant Orrin Channing, a Union officer who was presumed lost; and his daughter, Leyna. Gordon and Orrin have known each other for 30 years; they attended the Union Academy together. Leyna is a mute; Orrin says that they were in a Krill prison camp for 20 years and were tortured by the Krill, and that made his daughter a terrified mute.
The Captain of the Dovoro'kos demands the immediate return of Orrin, accusing him of destroying Krill ships after the Krill and the Union agreed to a cease-fire (after the battle with the Kaylon). He gives Ed 12 hours to comply, so Ed needs information about Orrin fast.
Gordon tells Ed that, 20 years earlier, Orrin and his family and Gordon were at Outpost 73 when the Krill attacked. Orrin's wife, Sophie, was killed; Orrin saved Gordon's life, but then Orrin and Leyna disappeared and were presumed captured or killed. This is the first time Gordon has seen Orrin and Leyna since then.
Gordon refuses to believe the Krill's accusation, and Talla finds no evidence of weapons on the Krill shuttle. This puts Ed between a rock and a hard place. As a Union Captain, he must do what is best for his ship and the Union, and he must comply with the Admiralty's orders, and the Admiralty doesn't want anything to ruin a chance for peace with the Krill. But, as a Union Captain, he also has a duty to protect Union citizens, including Orrin if there is no evidence against him.
Privately, Orrin tells Gordon that negotiating with the Krill is a huge mistake. Still grieving over Sophie, Orrin believes that the Krill must be punished for all of the atrocities committed on Union civilians, including Sophie and Leyna.
Talla has an uneasy feeling about Orrin, even though there is no evidence to support it. But she finds him looking around a storage room in Engineering, then reports that to Ed and Kelly.
Admiral Perry tells Ed that the Admiralty is adamant about the peace talks. For that reason, they would extradite Orrin if he's guilty. When Ed tells Gordon about this, Gordon insists that Ed do his duty as a Union Captain. But then, in a private conversation, Orrin wants Gordon to help him steal a shuttle so that Orrin can sabotage the peace talks. Now Gordon is caught in the middle - does he abandon his long-time friend who saved his life, as Gordon himself has doubts about peace with the Krill; or does he abandon his duty as a Union officer and his loyalty to Ed?
Gordon tells Talla about Orrin's plan and promises to tell Ed himself. But then we see Gordon and Orrin about to steal a shuttle. Talla tries to stop them, but Gordon stuns her and leaves with Orrin. So Gordon has sided with Orrin, right? Wrong! Gordon pretends to go along to learn all of Orrin's sabotage plan; Talla had planted a tracker on the shuttle.
Talla sees red marks all over Leyna's right arm and calls Claire, but Leyna pulls a knife and tells - yes, tells - Talla to back down. Talla tosses Leyna across the room, but Leyna starts bleeding yellow blood. Claire recognizes that warning sign, getting Talla out of the quarters and having a strong force field placed around the quarters.
"Leyna" actually is an Envall, a humanoid race whose blood becomes a powerful explosive when it is exposed to nitrogen (our atmosphere is 78% nitrogen). Leyna actually was killed with her mother; the Envall has her own grudge against the Krill and is willing to help Orrin, so she disguised herself as Leyna. He drained some of her blood to use in torpedoes fired at Krill ships. Now he intends to ram the shuttle, with a blood-bomb on board, into the Dovoro'kos. Gordon tries to reason with his friend, saying, "War is hell on all sides." He disables the shuttle, but Orrin activates the bomb anyway and won't abandon his obsession with vengeance. Gordon dons a spacesuit and leaves the shuttle just before it explodes - far from the Dovoro'kos. The Orville arrives and picks up Gordon.
Ed and the Krill Ambassador sign the Lak'vai Pact.
Star Trek connection - John Fleck, who played the Krill Ambassador, played different characters in The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and Enterprise.
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." (Thomas Jefferson, 1787)
"You don't trust me, do you? I don't blame you. If there is to be a brave new world, our generation is going to have the hardest time living in it." (Chancellor Gorkon to Captain Kirk, 'Star Trek VI - The Undiscovered Country')
This episode reminds us how difficult the road to peace can be. Whenever nations - or worlds - wage a very bloody war, there always will be those on both sides who never will accept peace, who always will thirst for vengeance.
After Ed presents the Sapphire Star to Yaphit for his heroism during the battle with Kaylon, Admiral Perry (again played by Ted Danson) contacts Ed and Kelly with historic news: the Krill want to negotiate a peace treaty with the Union. Ed will play an important role in the first step: the Orville will meet a Krill destroyer at Tarazed III, where he and a Krill Ambassador will sign a Lak'vai Pact (a Krill agreement to begin peace talks).
When the Orville arrives at Tarazed III, they find the Krill destroyer (the Dovoro'kos) firing on a Krill shuttle. The pilot of the shuttle requests an emergency docking on the Orville, and Ed allows it. On board the shuttle are, apparently, two humans: Lieutenant Orrin Channing, a Union officer who was presumed lost; and his daughter, Leyna. Gordon and Orrin have known each other for 30 years; they attended the Union Academy together. Leyna is a mute; Orrin says that they were in a Krill prison camp for 20 years and were tortured by the Krill, and that made his daughter a terrified mute.
The Captain of the Dovoro'kos demands the immediate return of Orrin, accusing him of destroying Krill ships after the Krill and the Union agreed to a cease-fire (after the battle with the Kaylon). He gives Ed 12 hours to comply, so Ed needs information about Orrin fast.
Gordon tells Ed that, 20 years earlier, Orrin and his family and Gordon were at Outpost 73 when the Krill attacked. Orrin's wife, Sophie, was killed; Orrin saved Gordon's life, but then Orrin and Leyna disappeared and were presumed captured or killed. This is the first time Gordon has seen Orrin and Leyna since then.
Gordon refuses to believe the Krill's accusation, and Talla finds no evidence of weapons on the Krill shuttle. This puts Ed between a rock and a hard place. As a Union Captain, he must do what is best for his ship and the Union, and he must comply with the Admiralty's orders, and the Admiralty doesn't want anything to ruin a chance for peace with the Krill. But, as a Union Captain, he also has a duty to protect Union citizens, including Orrin if there is no evidence against him.
Privately, Orrin tells Gordon that negotiating with the Krill is a huge mistake. Still grieving over Sophie, Orrin believes that the Krill must be punished for all of the atrocities committed on Union civilians, including Sophie and Leyna.
Talla has an uneasy feeling about Orrin, even though there is no evidence to support it. But she finds him looking around a storage room in Engineering, then reports that to Ed and Kelly.
Admiral Perry tells Ed that the Admiralty is adamant about the peace talks. For that reason, they would extradite Orrin if he's guilty. When Ed tells Gordon about this, Gordon insists that Ed do his duty as a Union Captain. But then, in a private conversation, Orrin wants Gordon to help him steal a shuttle so that Orrin can sabotage the peace talks. Now Gordon is caught in the middle - does he abandon his long-time friend who saved his life, as Gordon himself has doubts about peace with the Krill; or does he abandon his duty as a Union officer and his loyalty to Ed?
Gordon tells Talla about Orrin's plan and promises to tell Ed himself. But then we see Gordon and Orrin about to steal a shuttle. Talla tries to stop them, but Gordon stuns her and leaves with Orrin. So Gordon has sided with Orrin, right? Wrong! Gordon pretends to go along to learn all of Orrin's sabotage plan; Talla had planted a tracker on the shuttle.
Talla sees red marks all over Leyna's right arm and calls Claire, but Leyna pulls a knife and tells - yes, tells - Talla to back down. Talla tosses Leyna across the room, but Leyna starts bleeding yellow blood. Claire recognizes that warning sign, getting Talla out of the quarters and having a strong force field placed around the quarters.
"Leyna" actually is an Envall, a humanoid race whose blood becomes a powerful explosive when it is exposed to nitrogen (our atmosphere is 78% nitrogen). Leyna actually was killed with her mother; the Envall has her own grudge against the Krill and is willing to help Orrin, so she disguised herself as Leyna. He drained some of her blood to use in torpedoes fired at Krill ships. Now he intends to ram the shuttle, with a blood-bomb on board, into the Dovoro'kos. Gordon tries to reason with his friend, saying, "War is hell on all sides." He disables the shuttle, but Orrin activates the bomb anyway and won't abandon his obsession with vengeance. Gordon dons a spacesuit and leaves the shuttle just before it explodes - far from the Dovoro'kos. The Orville arrives and picks up Gordon.
Ed and the Krill Ambassador sign the Lak'vai Pact.
Suspension of Disbelief aka woooooohiiiiiiiieeeee!!! :-)
big_brother_19848 March 2019
The Orville manages to create suspension of disbelief by combining comedy with suspense and character interaction. Which makes great, immersive entertainment - you don't want to time-jump ahead or look for plot holes.
Would a crew be more serious on a starship in the future? Probably. Would they apply different procedures concerning ship security? Likely. Should we care about the lack of a realistic, dark and gritty mood? Definitely not!
Drama needs conflict, and the Orville has strong characters. There is no need to repeat the previous Terminator-Matrix-style double feature, but every episode is unexpected and different.
Would a crew be more serious on a starship in the future? Probably. Would they apply different procedures concerning ship security? Likely. Should we care about the lack of a realistic, dark and gritty mood? Definitely not!
Drama needs conflict, and the Orville has strong characters. There is no need to repeat the previous Terminator-Matrix-style double feature, but every episode is unexpected and different.
NEW PEACE WITH OLD BLOOD
douglasjordane15 November 2019
THE ORVILLE: SEASON 2: EPISODE 10: BLOOD OF PATRIOTS:
NEW PEACE WITH OLD BLOOD:
SYNOPSIS: LT. MALLOY HAS A DIFFICULT DUAL CHOICE TO MAKE: FRIENDSHIP VS DUTY AND REPAYING HIS BEST FRIEND THAT SAVED HIS LIFE.
CAPTAIN MERCER MUST ACHIEVE NEW PEACE IN SPITE OF AN UNKNOWN THREAT TO A POTENTIAL TREATY WITH THE KRILL.
SPOILER: SOMEHOW THIS WORKS ITSELF OUT IN 45 MINUTES AIRTIME OR LESS. GUARANTEED. THE ORVILLE IS LIKE THE JANITORIAL CREW TO A FEDERATION CLASS OFFICIAL FLEET OF GALACTIC STELLAR NATIONS. SOMEHOW THEY MAKE MONUMENTAL HISTORY AGAIN.
SOMEHOW YOU KNEW THAT THE ORVILLE WOULD DO IT AND BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN AWAY HOW INCREDIBLE THAT SOUNDS. THAT MY FRIENDS WAS THE EPITOME OF THE MEDIOCRITY OF STAR TREK. STEADY AS WE PAINFULLY LULL THROUGH THE CONTINUING EPISODES TO A CLIMATIC SEASON FINALE AND NO ONE WILL BE THE WISER. THE VIEWERS WILL BE BEGGING FOR MORE -NOT EVEN KNOWING WHY.
SYNOPSIS: LT. MALLOY HAS A DIFFICULT DUAL CHOICE TO MAKE: FRIENDSHIP VS DUTY AND REPAYING HIS BEST FRIEND THAT SAVED HIS LIFE.
CAPTAIN MERCER MUST ACHIEVE NEW PEACE IN SPITE OF AN UNKNOWN THREAT TO A POTENTIAL TREATY WITH THE KRILL.
SPOILER: SOMEHOW THIS WORKS ITSELF OUT IN 45 MINUTES AIRTIME OR LESS. GUARANTEED. THE ORVILLE IS LIKE THE JANITORIAL CREW TO A FEDERATION CLASS OFFICIAL FLEET OF GALACTIC STELLAR NATIONS. SOMEHOW THEY MAKE MONUMENTAL HISTORY AGAIN.
SOMEHOW YOU KNEW THAT THE ORVILLE WOULD DO IT AND BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN AWAY HOW INCREDIBLE THAT SOUNDS. THAT MY FRIENDS WAS THE EPITOME OF THE MEDIOCRITY OF STAR TREK. STEADY AS WE PAINFULLY LULL THROUGH THE CONTINUING EPISODES TO A CLIMATIC SEASON FINALE AND NO ONE WILL BE THE WISER. THE VIEWERS WILL BE BEGGING FOR MORE -NOT EVEN KNOWING WHY.
Bravo!
barr_robert9 March 2019
Very interesting plot twists. The storyline feels new and complex without going over the top and losing people. It stands up to Star Trek series on its own, while retaining a good balance of humor ... that special, signature Seth MacFarlane humor. The episodes continue to develop the characters well; and they address very difficult situations and decisions for crew members to wrestle with that are relevant today. The unique and fresh ideas of the future are interesting and engaging which paint the universe for viewers like the top Star Trek series. Fodder for future visionaries. Well Done and Thank You!
Sloppy writing
davidtv10 March 2019
Urine samples required to board the Orville or like the show.
yowilwasup9 March 2019
This show is maintaining it's unbroken record of absolute awfulness. The urine sample scene was a great example of just how awful this show is. Spealing of urine samples they should be required for anyone watching this show. No need for samples from the creators, they are obviously high on goof balls and their own egos. If the show used creativity as liberally
as Seth uses pancake makeup it might be watchable. But no. It's a another predictable small world (universe) plot. As always my apologies to the cast and crew (and families) who keep giving the show 10's and writing reviews that suggest "The Orville" is the "Citizen Kane" of the sci-fi genre. (And of course 'better than Star Trek and Star Wars ' combined).
This episode pretty much just rips off an episode of DS9
verifex30 June 2020
Watch Season 1: Episode 4 of Star Trek: Deep Space 9 and then watch this episode and you'll see they copied almost every single plot point, and many of the same scenes. That is the reason this episode felt like watching an episode of Star Trek.
Poor Episode. Where were the jokes?
sbulgacs8 March 2019
Warning: Spoilers
After two unoriginal above average episodes we seem to be back with the poor humourless morality plays. The problem with losing the comedy aspects is this show just turns into a poor mans version of the next next generation. The problem there being we already have 169 episodes of that with 100's more of it's clones. This one appears to be a riff of a DS9 episode entitled The Maquis where an old friend of Siskos uses subterfuge to achieve an aim, making Sisko question his reality. Hoping the humour makes a return shortly as it's what made The Orville original and endearing in the first place.
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