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2/10
1.5 hours of my life I can't get back
needmoreinforequest19 May 2017
Surprised they had a budget to produce this movie and then actually finish it off. Poor acting, unrealistic martial arts and plot.

First the movie is really discursive where you can't even follow it. You don't even know who the characters are (who are the good guys or bad guys, why they are fighting each other, etc.) There's no time indicator on whether this movie is set in the future or???? Continuity is terrible.

If you love C-rated movies this is it!
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2/10
Fear is a Lie
nogodnomasters3 July 2017
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Two worlds are coming together. They are not exactly colliding, but doing a slow merge so forget what you learned in Physics 101. I had to rewind and re-watch the explanation scene several times and it took a while for it to sink in.

"The Warrior" we follow from childhood on the planet Dominion until mortally wounded with a sacred sword. He stumbles into the Moon-lunar world where some lady of the lake heals him... and there is a different sacred sword in the lake from a former king, but it didn't play a great role and they could have left the whole sword thing off except it helped the confused ending. Now on the moon he meets a tribe of truth and discovers his world is lies...or at least alternative facts. They need to learn how to fight to defend themselves against the Dominion who we know are bad because they dress in black. The moon people live in tent villages that are slightly less than level 1 elf tents in Elvenar. And PLOT SPOILER, Warrior has a plan to kill the Emperor by getting next to him by bringing him a princess to add to his collection...something clearly inspired by "Death Race 2000." Warrior has flashbacks learning from his father and talking to the old king in dreams. The lake ending was unexpected and I am not certain what it meant, but was clearly the best thing about the film.

The plot wasn't easy to follow especially with the merging world thing. The was no clear reason for the wars, seems the worlds had a lot of space to expand. The acting was DOA and the dialogue was weak. The fight choreography left much to be desired.

Guide: No swearing, sex, or nudity.
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2/10
Horrible acting, boring story line, complete waste of time. Levy/Gutierrez should go back to underwear modeling.
guser-384788 November 2017
Horrible acting, boring story line, complete waste of time. Levy/Gutierrez should go back to underwear modeling and Spanish soap operas. Leave the acting for real actors. Anpretty face and a hot physique does not constitute acting talent. Do not waste your time watching this film, let alone spend your money buying the DVD.
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1/10
The Veil
dcarsonhagy16 August 2017
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I could not begin to tell you a thing about this movie--other than I watched it. I don't know what it was about, could not decipher the good guys from the bad, what the ending meant, what the beginning meant, nor what the director's vision (if he had one) was. Could barely understand anything that was said, as it was another one of those pretentious twit movies where they'd have you think the fate of everyone and everything hinges on every whisper.

As you can tell, I didn't care much for it so I'll just leave it at that. Watch at your own risk because this is one 90-minute movie that goes absolutely nowhere. Unrated, but does have some violence.
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1/10
an embarrassment
p-minnis31 August 2017
This film, subsidized by the Oklahoma Film Rebate Commission or something similar, was a lame attempt. Neither the plot nor the characters were developed, the acting quality was sad, and the fight scenes were high school. The Kingdom appeared to comprise a village of 9 or 10 funky black tents and had a similar number of warriors, while the Dominion (opposing dark side) had a few buildings made out of stone and perhaps 20 or 30 warriors. One reviewer said it was better than expected. I would hate to think what it was that he was expecting. The Film Rebate Commission should get their rebate back.
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1/10
What the hell is this?
phenomynouss24 March 2018
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That's the question I asked myself at least 18 or 19 times throughout the film, from start to near end. The whole thing is utterly baffling, not just in terms of the completely incoherent plot with even more incoherent characters, but in terms of the baffling design choices and costumes.

"Inexplicable" defines a large amount of this movie, through and through. Inexplicably it was listed as Recommended to me based on my having watched a completely unrelated film of a different genre by Netflix. Inexplicably I thought it was some manner of post-apocalyptic pseudo-medieval fantasy type thing, like "Into the Badlands" only far enough ahead that all traces of Old Earth are gone. There's even a split-second shot of two planets colliding that could explain how and why Earth and its civilizations get wiped out and revert to a medieval fantasy-esque world.

but apparently that is not the case. On top of that, this feels very much like a Fantasy setting that is trapped in its own world, like Lord of the Rings and middle earth, with no time for explaining anything or trying to integrate the audience. At the very least, Lord of the Rings was actually fun, and not plagued by visual and story choices that can only be described as "inexplicable".

The film starts with presumably the protagonist's prologue as a child. His father is training him to fight in a cliché sequence complete with the unexpected "child knocks the father upside the head and the father smiles and thinks He is Ready" instance. Then we boom ahead to some minor lore involving a King and a prophecy, and now the protagonist is older and a warrior.

The fight scene that unfolds is brief and tiny, involving only 6 or 7 people, tops, and the only weapon used is a club. I assumed this was meant to depict an ambush by the protagonist against a village, perhaps a raid, but it turns out he is going directly after some desert king. A KING. And this king lives in a single tent, basically, with like 8 personal guards who are unarmed and unarmored. The protagonist kills the king and takes his daughter as a "sacrifice" to the emperor. At no point is any "emperor" mentioned ever again later on.

The costume design seems to just be a scattershot amalgamation of what ever pieces of costume they could rummage together, with no particular coherency or relation to real world cultures or styles. The tribe that the Warrior guy stumbles upon are all dressed like Luke Skywalker on Tattooine with inexplicably wide open collars and necklaces, and proceeds to help train them to fight some evil king of a "Dominion" that is swarming the lands harassing villages and tribes.

The entirety of the training turns out to basically be small little fistfights. At no point does anyone use a weapon of any sort, and at times the trainees just go about and break each other's arms during training.

The small village has a beautiful Princess who the Warrior thought he saw rescue him beside a lake but she says it never happened. She doesn't want the small tribe to go to war, and does nothing to try to stop them or persuade them otherwise. Inexplicably, the Warrior guy demands that he take the Princess, and inexplicably the tribes leader guy Aysel basically agrees and turns her over like a lamed horse.

Inexplicably, this tribe goes off to fight with absolutely no weapons and no armor, and are depicted BEFORE a battle sparring in a cave, BREAKING EACH OTHERS ARMS. Somehow, the Warrior and the Princess end up somewhere else in another village, where the Warrior is back to training people in fistfighting, when the Dominion arrives and sacks the village and kidnaps all the people.

At this point, I completely spaced out, lost track of a few minutes, and suddenly the Warrior guy is in front of the Dominion's King, who inexplicably looks like he's wearing over-sized novelty vampire teeth and is perpetually cringing and mincing as he struggles to act around them teeth. He proceeds to try to kill the Warrior by having him fight his own warriors one on one.

It somehow took me until this point to realize that there's almost no actual weapons in this film. All the fight sequences thus far have involved fistfighting or a VERY brief appearance by a club, a short sword, or a scythe. I cannot believe that this film had the budget to use some astonishingly decent visual effects yet didn't have a budget for more than 3 or 4 swords or more than 1 helmet. There's absolutely no explanation in-universe or any indirect suggestion that something happened as to why no one has any weapons. People just fistfight and act like they're in a glorious battle out of Tolkien.

So at some point, this mincing vampire king is revealed to be the father of the Princess, who mysteriously appears and begs her father not to kill the Warrior, and she will rule his kingdom as he wants. So he agrees and orders the Warrior guy released.

Despite this, he is inexplicably NOT released but tied up and left to die again, while inexplicably Aysel re-appears, now apparently part of the Dominion and wearing their Jaguar Knight armor, and gets randomly killed by the Warrior during a flashback or hallucination scene of some sort.

Then the Princess murders her mincing vampire father, finds the Warrior guy again, and somehow goes back in time, where it's revealed she did indeed rescue the Warrior guy by the lake, in the future.

Then the movie just ends, with an equally inexplicable epilogue showing the Desert Princess from the beginning, now an older woman, casually walking around and smiling, apparently not dead or "sacrificed" to the nonexistent emperor.

Then it all just ends.

This movie began as a confusing, boring thing which, the further it went along, further evolved into a baffling, inexplicable mess of scenes with no natural transition and no natural connection to each other. This is a film which genuinely feels to me like it was not so much written and directed so much as assembled by an AI that was designed for something other than writing or filmmaking.
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Absolutely awful
pahvou9 November 2017
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The first 20 seconds of the movie had potential... but then it completely fell apart. It was one of those kingdom movies where every kingdom is fighting every kingdom but we don't know why, nor who is the good kingdom or bad kingdom, with the exception one kingdom has black clothing and dirty faces. A kingdom has between 5 and 10 members, each with a princess and a sacred sword, and I could swear some of the same actors are used in the different kingdoms. One kingdom has a mythical warrior from another kingdom who has daggers attached to his forearms with sharp points pointed towards his body instead of his enemy. It's a miracle he doesn't poke his eye out when sleeping.

One kingdom has tents made from misquote netting, probably purchased at the clearance section of a discount store. One marauding kingdom sets them on fire with a clear message to campers on just how flammable this type of material is.

As to the story-line of the movie? I have no idea. I assume it has something to do with good and evil. There also might be a message from the sacred swords, or rather sword, since each kingdom probably used the same prop. That message being... what sword is more powerful; one that has been handed down from generation to generation, or one that is found at the bottom of a lake?
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1/10
To watch the Unwatchable
davo1958-14-82190413 November 2017
The only reason to watch this movie is because it is so unwatchable. The Veil is a movie where the soul of Ed Wood is resurrected into the body of whoever directed this and then goes to an artsy film school, then takes way too many mushrooms and cannabis gummy bears, then somehow gets $300,000.00 and makes a movie.
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1/10
Waste of $16.95
detclouseau29 October 2017
I bought this movie after reading the sleeve. It sounded good. Made popcorn kenneled the dogs and sat to enjoy a good movie. Well it wasn't I watched the whole thing waiting for something to happen, and it doesn't. At the end of the movie I was actually glad it was over. Turned on regular TV and watched an episode of American Pickers I had seen about 3 times before. It was more fulfilling.
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1/10
Huh?
intruder_mp17 March 2018
Whom ever wrote the good reviews for this film are smoking that Jumanji!! I was infinitely more amused reading these reviews. No idea what the actual movie was about, who was supposed to be who, where, when, what let alone the why! Seriously, read the reviews, skip the movie. Somethings you're better off not knowing/seeing yourself.
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2/10
Alternative Logline Suggestion
andrewpcsmith13 December 2017
Alternate logline: Once upon a time, two films got together to have a child. Melancholia the mother; Conan the Barbarian the father. Unfortunately, the film they birthed was dropped on it's head during delivery and is now known as The Veil.

Many of the other reviews handled some of the finer details of the film's shortcomings with more precision, but the story is a mess, it's overreaching and underachieving, the stakes seem lacking. One small example that's not a spoiler because it's so early in the film: We're expected to believe this is an alien planet, (or possibly an alternate Earth) but there are no aliens, only a shot in the sky for VFX to support such a thing. There are no likable characters or performances (aside from the old man at the end) and not any humor to speak of other than some painfully long pauses in the middle of fight choreography here and there.

As a couple of pros for the movie: The film's makeup and wardrobes were great. The scenery is fine. It's shot decently.

TLDR; The writing was horrible. It doesn't go anywhere. Watch Conan or Melancholia instead.
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8/10
A solid feature film by Oklahoman
deadcenterchic10 July 2017
Went to a screening of an a advance cut of this action/drama at deadCENTER a few years back. While only of rough cut you could see the potential. Beautiful landscapes and production design. I have never seen a film show Oklahoma look so good. While the acting was strong the story at times was difficult to track. But it was only a rough cut.

After the screening the filmmaker talked about how it was "an ambitious project that didn't really have enough of a budget to support the vision."

All things consider I think its worth checking out.
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7/10
Pretty Damn Good
libertydune16 November 2017
I think some of the negative reviews here are by people who didn't get chosen to be a part of the movie! lol

For a non-Hollywood film, this is way above par.

The cinematography is super. Honestly, it's better than most big budget films.

The acting was strong overall, maybe not Zera, but the Warrior was on track.

Sets and costuming were well done and the setting - wow! what a way to use nature to your advantage!

OK, so the plot was ....sparse and not well explained, but hey --- these people weren't quite sure what the hell happened themselves, right?
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1/10
This is what happens...
sfinancing8 January 2018
...when you mix pseudo-eastern philosophy at a grade school level with native american symbology(including buffalo...) with a poor screenwriter and at best(and that rarely) mediocre actors in a post-apocalyptic(?) semi fantasy setting. Sound like a mess? Yup.

Strangely enough I think the mixed euro accented actors probably bugged me more than the buckskin gis. Abysmal choreography of the fight scenes left me longing for a jumping out at you POW! ala Batman. On yet another strange note the directing somehow managed to make this 85 min loser seem like i was 4 hours long.

Fan of B movies, ok with old out of sync martial arts movies and 60s/70s Japanese samurai movies. This one is just incredibly bad on all levels.

Free on Netflix, way over priced.
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2/10
Not Particularly Enjoyable
denisegunnels11 November 2017
Netflix "recommended" this movie to me. Normally it would be something I would have enjoyed but the plot, such as it was, was nebulous. Things didn't hook up and the whole mess was difficult to follow. After what was probably the most unsatisfactory ending I have ever watched I was grateful the movie was over.

Positives for the film are good fighting, sparring, and training scenes, nice location scenery, and the hot bod on the main character. While not usually an aspect I would comment on at least it made the film bearable. (I'm probably not allowed to say that these days but there it is. If he objects he can contact me and I'll change the verbiage.)
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1/10
Possibly worst film I've seen in a decade.
shepherdsfield15 November 2017
Possibly the worst film I've seen in a decade. The plot is utter nonsense. Mysterious prophesies meaning nothing. The characters are a shambles. First good. Then bad. Then good again. Then bad. Who cares? At last, he finds the magic sword then doesn't use it. At the end, the writers couldn't figure out what to do so they just stopped. For a college film, I'd give it a B for costumes. Don't waste your time.
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2/10
I have no idea what I just watched
Calicodreamin23 June 2019
I have no idea what the plot of this movie is... there are dream sequences and flashbacks and flash forwards and nothing is explained. The lack of a decent plot is actually quite astounding; really no point in trying to follow along. The dialogue is completely incoherent and confuses you just as much as the swerving plot does.

The only reason this doesn't get a 1, is because the wardrobe department hit this out of the park. The actors had great costumes and looked quite beautiful, they just had nothing else to work off of.
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5/10
Not as bad as I imagined
hawaiialin30 November 2018
Yes, the story lacks depth in understanding. Yes, the special effects are mediocre at best. Yes, it's confusing. Yes, it was low budget. But hey, it kept me awake and intrigued to see it till the end. Try it.
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1/10
Longest 85 minute movie I ever watched!
buddzoo17 November 2017
This movie moved so slow... I was looking forward to it finally ending my agony. I don't think I've ever checked the time so much in one movie! If it ran at the correct pace, it probably would've been 30 minutes tops. Obviously a low budget film. The acting is mediocre, the scenes are repetitive, the "fight" scenes are bad and unrealistic, the filming and lighting made the movie appear as if it was filmed in the 1980's...not in 2017. And on top of all that, the end leaves you contemplating, "Huh?!" I cannot figure out how it managed to get over two stars. People rating this must be super bored and watch a lot of low quality shows to think that this is anything but awful.
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William Levy
Kirpianuscus23 September 2017
he is the lead motif to see the film. if you are one of the admirers of him and less viewers of soap opera series. because the film has not other virtues. except the fragments of nature.fight scenes, a mix of fairy tale/video game/ Medieval and post apocalyptic atmosphere, pieces of sketches as story, a body in each position as source of interest, large territories of ambiguity. it is easy to define it as a bad film. but this conclusion could be too bitter. it is one of many predictable films, illustration of good intentions and a spoon of ambition, with a so precise target and good opportunity for kill the evening after a hard work day. nothing more.except, maybe, the landscapes, the references to classic Sci.Fi/fantastic films and, off course, the clichés.
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2/10
Confusing
ijeomas28 August 2019
I honestly cannot say what I just watched. I have lost 2 hours trying to understand and just don't. The storyline was clean (kingdom in peril, warrior hero, and princess in hiding), unfortunately the execution will leave you pausing and rewinding to try and piece together what is going on. The movie is only 85 minutes long but in my desperate attempts to understand, I kept rewinding.
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1/10
What just happened?
irbsnspices20 July 2018
The only thing worthy in the movie is the scenery in the film. Some of the special effects like the two worlds forming an eclipse are also memorable. Besides those two things and the costumes being decent, the film is not worth your time. "The Veil" has bad acting from beginning to end, and it's from almost all the actors. However, to give the actors some credit, it's hard to have good acting when it's a completely horrible script. The plot is actually okay, but ridiculously awful delivery and setup to get there. Not to mention the atrocious fight sequences, despicable editing, and one of the worst endings ever! It's also stupid to see the main hero walk like a robot during his battles. Unless, you just have absolutely nothing to do, don't waste your time!
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10/10
Best movie to watch!
dottilandimages17 March 2019
So, my spouse and I have this dynamic where he turns on movies and I do the thing where I'm reading or surfing Facebook or literally anything other than paying much attention, with occasional moments of brief interest. This ultimately leads me to ask questions of what's going on, and him playfully teasing me about how I do this all the time, and he explains the movie to me.

Folks, this movie is a game changer, let me tell you!

This movie had us both wondering what the heck is going on, which clearly gave me the upper hand tonight.
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6/10
Solid "true movie" attemption
demariamax16 February 2018
All right, it's not a masterpiece. And if you're used to Hollywood super-productions, with incredible special effects, The Veil can only be a disappointment.

But there is more than this, another kind of cinema exists: there's people who, with infinitely more limited means, try to build a story. And this the point where The Veil becomes interesting. We don't find super-explosions and hipertechnological monsters came out from a computer graphic processor: all we got are people in flesh and blood and a story.

Is the plot slightly confused? Yes, it's true. Can any of these actors be nominated for an Oscar, today or in the future? Absolutely not. Is there a poverty that most often leaves you astonished? Very true.

It would be simple under these conditions to bet everything on special effects, more some free sex and violence scenes. Instead, the director has chosen the hardest path: making a real film, in a true ambient, with sensible dialogues, and a story that, if not original, at least is tangible. Instead of another miserable SyFy's style production, here's a movie. Even with all its flaws (and there are many), I think the intention must be rewarded.
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1/10
Absolutely horrible
xdavid2 January 2018
Ridiculous story and possibly the worst acting I've ever seen. I've seen kids on the playground stage more realistic fight scenes, and there is nothing of substance to the movie other than fight scenes. This isn't one of those movies that are so bad they have a train wreck kind of appeal ... this one is simply unwatchable.
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