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6/10
Ani ruins it
cscott23315 June 2020
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Season one was as solid 10!! The material covered is so real and so relevant. They told the story in a way that was original and so very interesting. I own a salon and told several moms of teenagers that they should watch each episode and then discuss it. These conversations need to be happening in every home! Shine a light on all the tragedies centering around our children. Season 2 was also very good. I knew it would be hard to follow the almost flawless first season. Then...ANI in season 3. What the hell were they thinking?? Why was she so important and so trusted?? Like within minutes she's knows all the deepest darkest secrets. How?? Why?? She's a nosy two faced meddler!! She is AWFUL!!!! I don't know if she's just a terrible actor or that her character is absolutely unlikeable!! She has NO redeeming qualities. She was a huge mistake she added nothing except confusion and anger from fans of the show. I held off writing this review, in hopes that season 4 would make up for the Ani disaster and they'd be back on track. Not the case. Ani, I hate to say, is back. And when I saw her face and heard her voice I remembered all the reasons that make her terrible. 10 minutes in and everyone is already telling her how much everyone needs her...ugh!! Writers should've listened to the fans and axed her. I'm not sure I'll be able to watch season 4, that's how bad this character sucks!!
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6/10
Ani sucks.. . Most irritating character
laxmikantgabel24 August 2019
I mean why she has to poke noses of all. She is out of nowhere character.
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7/10
Ani...reasons why???
Zomabur28 August 2019
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Ani makes me feel like we accidentally turned on audio description & can't turn it off.

The first series was exceptional and I did enjoy season 2 despite the Hannah visions. Season 3 though...... How is this new girl trusted by everyone? How did she become so close to Clay so quickly? Why is Hannah barely mentioned? The tapes were released publicly she could easily have listened to them. She is obviously ridiculously interested in the group so it makes no sense that she wouldn't listen to the tapes!

I do think the whole storyline for series 3 would have been great without the awful commentary from Ani. It's just completely unnecessary! It makes sense that Bryce could be killed but we are so connected to the other characters that they would have been able to explore this story without the need of Ani! Nothing against the actress, she does a good job with what is written. It's the whole part that is just completely unnecessary & highly irritating.

I am English, so it's not the accent that grates on me. It's the personality of the character. It's making it very hard for me to keep watching! I have watched series 1 & 2 a few times each. The music & the intertwining stories were great but I will never be able to watch this series again. I want to press mute whenever she speaks!
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8/10
Don't bother with season 3
jesselawrence-1675524 August 2019
First season brilliant. Second was alright but the third is awful. You can't add a new character and make her the main part. I hate her and can't watch it because of her. Going by other reviews I'm not the only one. Whoever wrote her part needs punishing
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Don't even bother with Season 3
theoarsl20 September 2019
It would've been best if the series was left at season 1.
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8/10
S3 lost it...
Solavancininoceti27 August 2019
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I understand that the show is about showing the worst of this horrible teenagers world, but this is simply TOO much... I was OK with some facts... A boy gets a stick on his ass, another one confesses having been raped when he was younger and afterwards working on the streets (nothing ever said on S1/S2), boys fighting with the sole intention of ruining the others life, an 18 years old latin-thug-gangster who's in charge of his family, a girl who's been raped by one of her "friends" telling everyone she's over and tougher than she really is, a boy who rapped half his school, who acted like he was a king and suddenly acts like he's a saint, a boy who's remorsed about what he has done, but nobody cared, an absent mother who's suddenly a caring one... and the list goes on... But the plot they made, to save Alex (who's father perfectly knows he was involved) to frame Monty... the fact that Bryce was actually killed by one of his mates, by a kid... is way too much!!!! I think the story would have been so much richer, if Bryce's death would have been an accident or even a suicide (yet another one). And the cherry on the pie, Monty got killed on his cell... again... TOO MUCH...
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10/10
Thank you for 13 Reasons why
hqtr-5830910 June 2020
I just wanted to thank the crew and actors for making this show possible! I am a grown man and I was very emotional during the whole series (more so during the first season what happened to Hannah) but it really got me emotionally. I think it was the most emotional show I watched in my life! I normally don't write these but bravo to everyone part of this show!
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7/10
Season 4 was NOT how this should have ended!
aimtrain10217 June 2020
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I read the book years ago and felt Season 1 was a decent adaptation, even though they did change some things.

I even liked Season 2, because I had grown interested in the characters.

Season 3 I had mixed feelings. I didn't like Ani. I didn't like them trying to make us see this other side of Bryce. However, a lot of great powerful moments for Jess, Clay, and Justin occurred.

And let's talk about Clay and Justin. The way their relationship started and grew. It was my favorite thing about this show! I was so happy that they became brothers and Justin was adopted and he really did this 180 with his life. It was so nice to watch. He went from being one of the bad guys to someone we all hoped would be OK in the end. He redeemed himself and proved to be a good friend.

Season 4 seemed to take all of this and all of the other great things about this show and throw it into the trash. Clay's issues should have been addressed and handled much differently by his parents, therapist, teachers friends. He wasn't simply "anxious". We spend the majority of the season watching him freak out, berate Justin, have hallucinations, etc. Aside from briefly being in the psych ward, it's like no one was really doing anything about it. So unrealistic.

The camping episode? What was that? When did this show turn into a horror movie? So many loose ends. Why wasn't his mom out there in the woods looking for him when he was missing for hours? It just made no logical sense. The riot episode was also too much and out of place. Of course these kids should be under security restrictions..half the senior class has died or gotten into serious trouble!

They tried to cram in too many "woke" things. More than usual and it felt awkward and rushed.

They threw in new characters. Winston was terrible, Diego (also terrible), and Monty's sister? What? Then they threw in Alex all of a sudden being gay and having this brief fling with Winston only to then be with Charlie? Too rushed and could have been handled better. Tyler and Tony's storylines kind of fell into background, but again just nothing felt like it made sense. I don't like how Clay was not there for Tony at all. Weren't they best friends?

I thought Season 4 was going to be about Justin trying to stay sober and him and Clay's bond and also Justin and Jess working things out slowly. While they all struggle yet work together to not get caught. Clay treated Justin so poorly, and I get that he was having a mental breakdown, but I wanted a better reconciliation toward the end.

The finale was the only decent episode of the season. I was angry at what happened to Justin, but in a way I had a feeling they would do this. His character grew the most and he just always had this tragic story no matter what. Kind of like how they killed off Jen in the Dawson's Creek finale. I suppose the ending scenes between him and Clay made up for the trash in other episodes, but I still wanted Clay to do more. To say more. But again he also struggled from his own issues, so maybe that was best we could get. But Justin deserved more.
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10/10
season 4 broke my heart.
fardinine8 June 2020
I was going through a massive depression, i thought i was the only one who was suffering, this show helped to get through my depression and made me stronger. Thank You 13RW. I love you Justin.
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6/10
Did the creator and producers really care after season 1?!
cjonesas13 June 2020
13 Reasons Why started strong, interesting and haunting in its first season, having me on the edge of my seat and fully interested at all times. It was super gripping, well-done & well-acted and by the end of that season, I couldn't stop thinking about it, highly praising and recommending it for quite a while. Then the subsequent seasons followed and the magic vanished pretty quickly, leaving a bitter taste in my mouth.

  • Season 1 gets a 10, It was the best and should have finished there.
  • Season 2 gets a 7.5, explored the aftermath, while having filler scenes of Hannah Baker, not doing justice to her in a decent way.
  • Season 3 gets a 5, the writers ran out of ideas, dragging the series and adding an outsider character by the name of Ani, not making any sense in the series, let alone her deceitful personality, unpleasant presence and distasteful acting.
  • Season 4 gets a 2.5, It is basically a comedy and parody of the show like "Scary Movie" was at its time. It fills its viewers up with messages of compassion, love vs. hatred, sanity vs. insanity and unrealistic accentuation of issues like anxiety and depression. While the mentioned are very important, exist (in the series and real world) and even back then in season 1, It's their depiction and development based on the storyline that is weak, feeble and unconvincing.


All executives involved, forgot about the real story of the series, about Hannah Baker and how she was martyrized and battered. They forgot about her pain, suffering and hopelessness, which got to my throat and saddened me beyond measure.

A continuation and dragging of a series mainly about Hannah Baker and her issues, without her being in it and an active part of it, was most unforgivable. I loved Liberty High and its life, but without Hannah in it, it was just a shadow of a life.

Hannah, you were traumatized beyond measure, made a point at the expense of your life and will be dearly missed. Hope that other persons like you, out there, find the courage and strength to speak up before it's too late.
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5/10
If you are just thinking of watching this, stop after season 1.
shankomac24 August 2019
Disappointed is all I'll say. People may disagree but this is honestly how I feel about the show.

Season 1 was 9/10 for me. Brilliant season. The shock factor made this show stand out. It felt like a refreshing presentation of not very commonly talked about situations. I do advice a little discretion if you're going through a tough time as it can have negative effects inadvertly. The show should have ended right here, and no one would've complained.

Season 2 is a drag. A very huge dip. It still ties to the main story but draws a lot of different branches, each of which explore the main plot from Season 1. Still watchable.

Little "extra" details ahead: Season 3 is a disaster in my honest opinion and hence you see the earlier 9/10 become a 3/10. I don't want to spoil anything exactly, hence I can't give away precise details. The third season doesn't even feel like 13 Reasons Why. It is so overly obsessed with "who does what" and "who is it" over 12 episodes while contributing contents of character development which doesn't even get utilized in the 13th (finale) episode. There's a new randomly introduced character and that character is supposedly someone the viewer should care for, for some odd reason. They tried character development to impact the viewer's perspective, but I feel like the execution was poor.

Season 4, here we go. Not as big a disaster as Season 3. I've seen people hate it and I totally understand why. The season is weirdly paced. Sometimes it feels dragged, sometimes it feels forced. There's too much unnecessary information again. What started off with the first season has zero relevance to this season, at this point. That being said, I think it's good to see them wrap it up. It could've been worse. Coming out of season 3, I didn't know what to think. But it is not as worse as I imagined it to be. It's still below average in my opinion, but at least they concluded the story without making an even bigger mockery of it. The emotional touch at the end did influence my opinion on the season.

9/10 for the first season. 6/10 for the second season. 2/10 for the third season. 3/10 for the fourth season.

5/10 for the whole 4 seasons.

Dylan (who played Clay) was great throughout the series. Katherine Langford did a really good job with potraying Hannah. Tyler, Justin and Bryce were well acted out too.

The show had a very limited shelf life. The show should've ended with Hannah's story. I think the creators should've acknowledged this simple fact. The story fell apart as the timeline progressed, even though the acting was top notch. It's a shame. Regardless, the first season of the show will always stand out to me. It will always be one of my favourite seasons of any show. Anything after that? I'd probably avoid.
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9/10
Overall very good
moonlight_strand10 June 2020
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First off, the show has a total of 4 seasons and to be honest, I wouldn't have minded if the show only had one season because that and season 2 I guess were the only ones relevant to the book.

Season 1 was great, it really illustrated how the effects of peoples words and actions can really take a toll on others. People never really know what is going on with others. Many are suffering in silence, just like Hannah. The execution of Hannah and Clay's character by Katherine and Dylan respectively were great. As well as the rest of the cast. They collectively flesh out their roles well. Even though there is disturbing content, for me, it really just opened my eyes and to think even more than I already do about how people are feeling and how people bottle their emotions. Season 1 was pretty great.

Season 2 was kind of not needed. I appreciate that the Basie was to shed light that Hannah wasn't the only victim and that there had to be justice for Hannah, but overall the season kind of dragged along. But it was still pretty decent.

Come Season 3, the introduction of Ani was negative as to be expected. This is where the series deviates farther from the book. And turned the show into a murder mystery. I wish the writers stuck to the show more, but I understand that they didn't because Netflix pushed them to make more seasons even though Hannah's story was completed after Season 2. It was an unnecessary season, but overall it was fun to watch in my opinion.

Season 4 I feel was a good way to wrap up the show. I felt that the show would center on finding out who framed Monty, but it didn't exactly. It did, but not completely. Instead it delved more into Clay's feelings. Throughout the season, Clay can never catch a break. He's cracking under pressure and being haunted by the shadows of Bryce and Monty. He's really carrying a lot of baggage. Besides Clay, the show goes into each character and makes storylines for them. For example, the show really did something sweet with Alex's character. Having him question his sexuality and ultimately dating Charlie ~. It was really sweet.

Ok I'm going off topic now, but just in the end, 13 Reasosn Why I feel stayed true to the book for its first season and was good at showcasing issues teens go through. Yes there's a lot of controversy but that's to be expected. Most say it's negative, but in the end, people have said numerously that the show has helped them in some shape or form, and that can't be ignored. The cast did wonderfully with their characters and makes this show something worth to watch.

Watch at your own discretion, as it can be triggering. Don't listen to what others say. Watch for yourself. Form your own opinion, and heed to the warnings before each episode.
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6/10
Should have been one season only
blackwarrior-153148 June 2020
Season one was great. If you've heard good things about this show, it's more than likely things being said about the first season. The second season is okay but not as good, and then the last two are pretty bad. They're entertaining don't get me wrong-but in some of the worst ways possible. In my opinion, it turned into a show where they were exploiting serious issues just for shock value and to keep the show running-as opposed to addressing those issues and tackling them with a storyline that makes coherent sense.
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5/10
Ani who?? S3 is just....
jeff-8192824 August 2019
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Can't understand (within context of S1&S2) why the writers would introduce a new character/narrator named Ani, who has unimaginably earned the trust of absolutely every character over the last 2 seasons in a meresly few months of being at Liberty High. All the characters' deepest secrets, regrets, lies and pain (which she bares no tied emotional connection to whatsoever) is all of sudden be-known by Ani within the first 15mins of S3. It continues to leave the stars of the show looking like they are nothing but support role characters in their very OWN story. Ani goes on to portray a "loved by all gate keeper of secrets" for no logical reason, whilst giving her naunced view and advice to everyones troubles. A predictable and frustratingly uninteresting addition that brings no value or even a slight bit of foreshadowing. Such a disappointment after an intriguing S2 finale.
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More like two or three reasons why
rosaliesummers13 April 2017
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Basically the show is about a girl who kills herself and makes 13 tapes about it, each containing a reason why she killed herself, each targeted at a specific person. The internet seems to have blown up over it, saying how important it is that bullying is stopped and how dangerous the consequences are. However, whilst this message is important, I don't think it was portrayed very well by the show, the only kind of bullying Hannah was receiving was being objectified by the boys.

Don't even get me started on the main character, Hannah. I could not stand this attention seeking drama queen. Who makes tapes blaming people for their suicide, so those people can then be haunted by the guilt forever? She even drives another person to suicide with her actions. Everything is about her; she never considers how anyone else feels. For example, putting Clay on the tapes even though he did nothing wrong. She tells him to leave, so he leaves...and that makes him an awful person??? She's the terrible person, I mean her kind-of-friend got raped and she did nothing although she was in the same room. The least she could have done is have called the police afterwards. So many of her problems are of her own doing. Almost everyone in the tapes did not deserve to be on there. For example, Justin. He shows Bryce this picture of Hannah that Bryce sends round, thus getting her labeled 'easy'. First of all, the picture was literally just a bad mug of her flashing a tiny bit of underwear. Big deal. I'm in high school and pictures like this are posted on Snapchat everyday and everybody forgets it 5 seconds after they've seen it, it's not like it was a nude or anything. Second of all it was Bryce that sent the picture, not Justin, so surely he is to blame. Thirdly, why does Justin have a second tape? Because he didn't try hard enough to save Jessica from Bryce? News flash Hannah; neither did you!

Next, Clay. He started off okay, before turning into some crazy justice warrior, taking Courtney to the grave and whatnot. Also I'm pretty sure hallucinating Hannah everywhere is not normal and he should probably see somebody about it. All the time whilst he's having flashbacks and staring off into space he must look so dumb, it's a wonder nobody notices.

Tony. What even. We never get an explanation as to why he was chosen by Hannah to take care of the tapes, other than he was the only nice boy in the whole school, which is convenient. Why does he not hand in the tapes to the police anyway? There are only 3 people who could get in actual trouble for what they did, so it's not like he needs to protect Clay or anything.

Just stuff that bugged me: •Justin suggesting they kill Clay. How on earth would this help. Justin didn't even do anything wrong anyway. •Clay gets handed pills by his mum and we found out he used to take them. I assume they were anti-depressants? However this is skimmed over and never returned to because the only person with mental health issues is Hannah obviously and we can't let anyone else be more troubled than her. This could have been a great character development point but was sadly wasted. •Clay's attitude to Courtney coming out. He says it's the 21st century and nobody will care that she's gay, and I hate how wrong this is. LGBT kids are as relentlessly bullied as ever, just in more subtle ways than they used to be. One of my best friends came out and her life has been hell since. Clay is shaming the kids that are still too afraid to come out, but they have genuine reason to be afraid, and nobody should be told they are a coward for choosing the safer option, especially now Donald Trump is president. Also the fact that Hannah just tells everyone on the tapes Courtney is gay is so disrespectful and rude to Courtney, showing once again that Hannah is selfish and doesn't care about anyone else. •Another thing I think the show was wrong to do is present self-harm as it does. The cafe girl says that self-harm is the brave option, stronger than suicide. Why would you send this message?!? Obviously ultimately suicide is worse, but saying that self-harm is brave is going to convince more kids to cut and was phrased so badly, making it sound positive. Just what we need, more kids self-harming, thanks for that. •The fact that there's going to be a second season shows they just want to draw out the drama. It's not about the message, it's about the money, which is a shame. •Why would the stalker guy mention the tapes to the authorities? He's one of the only people who actually did something illegal. •One of the students says to Clay that they know everything, for example his nightmares. How do they know??? This was never mentioned on the tapes! There are too many similar plot holes to list so I'm just going to wrap this up here as my word count is reaching the max.

OK so onto the good points? There was a nice diverse cast and the acting was pretty good. The plot would have been better if it wasn't sooo slow paced. Raising awareness of teen bullying and suicide is always good I guess, yet I wonder how long it will be before somebody actually makes tapes then kills themselves after this show. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens.

So basically it's not all it's made out to be and all the characters seem to have a borderline personality disorder, but hey, if you want see what all the hype is about then if you can ignore the stupid characters then go ahead.
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9/10
Impactful series on this generation of teenagers
orvarfridriksson25 February 2021
Dylan Minnette absolutely shines in these series and most of the cast delivers a solid performance. While each season differs from one another it tells a compelling story on how actions of a few can impact the lives of many. The variety of character is well executed by Brian Grazer who adopted the book this is based on to the television screen and gives fresh variety of issues teenagers might be dealing with in their every day lives. The final season is on par with the first season but falls a little bit short during the middle with bizarre scenes and out-of-context scenes that have little or no impact to the general storyline. The final episode is absolutely heartbreaking and I advice watchers to have tissue ready. One of my all time favorite TV series in a long time. Enjoy.
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10/10
Powerful powerful show
michaelpilbeam-8257631 March 2017
The first thing I want to say before I start, is that I do not binge watch TV series. It's extremely rare for me, and I often don't even finish the season. This TV series had me hooked from start to finish and I spent all day watching it.

While I was watching I was thinking - this is absolutely brilliant TV. However, by then end of it, I was thinking - that was so powerful and emotional to watch. I could barely watch the final few episodes, because I was so engrossed in the story and it does becomes quite graphic. I will say no more.

Easily the best TV series I have watched in many many years, and an absolute must watch show.
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10/10
Raw, painfully blunt, and brutally honest
salim_ios3 April 2017
How strange it is for me to say this, but I hope they don't make a second season for this show. It ended exceptionally well, with beautiful one-liners and a soundtrack that was thematically symmetrical to the harsh reality presented in the show. The lighting, the flashbacks, the narration was pitch perfect. I love how the producers kept true to the book, developing the story peripherally as I expect they had to do, to make thirteen hour-long episodes, but they left the main plot untouched and untarnished.

Everyone who has been through high school knows that it isn't easy. Everyone who has contemplated taking their own lives knows isolation, knows a million streams of thought blazing by, knows about grasping at signs and the slimmest of hopes. The story presented here is so unapologetic and raw, so real that the viewer is left reeling from their own moral compasses flickering. Are we so innocent? It takes less than a moment to reach the conclusion that no one is innocent.

The acting is superb and convincing. The actors and actresses ages are finally reflected honestly in a young adult / coming of age show. I think everyone knows someone who has gone through some of the problems presented in the show which makes it so relatable. And although it doesn't give us any solid resolve to these challenges, just as in life, we go on.
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7/10
Season 1 YES! Season 2 Eh. Season 3 No No No.
camjgarcia30 August 2019
I came here to write a review specifically about the character Ani, but upon seeing previous reviews, there's nothing left to be said. The show apparently needed a voice in the background because Hannah isn't there to do it, so they introduce us to a RANDOM character and make us believe she was included in this very VERY closed off group because...that's exactly how high school works, right? Love the actress, hated the character. This show turned teen detective very quickly, and the main story line is everyone is lying about something, but what clue can us teen detectives find at the end of each episode to bring truth to a lie. Every time.

I DO have to say something about the cinematography and lighting and editing. That was awesome and these poor teams hardly get credit. The seamless transitions to flashbacks worked like, for the lack of a better term, like magic. You watch a character walk away, but in the same shot as the lighting changes see the character emerge again in the flashback. Standing ovation for that. I loved it.
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8/10
How valuable is a human's life?
ahmetkozan10 April 2017
I watched the last episode and finished the series. My current mood is depressive and my feathers thorns. It was really impressive. The drama brings great sorrows to the audience, bringing sadness. It completely changes the way people think about their behavior towards the environment. We have behaviors that cause negative effects that we do not care about people we interact with, and that is to realize that our behavior can be one of the giant pieces of fist that are thrown into the life of that person. The worst do not care about it. So I always thought it was important to pay attention not to break your heart in this life. It is very important to act like human beings. This series is for everyone to watch. Especially parents. The biggest impact of the series was that I could start looking at the people around me with less prejudice. It is strongly recommended. 8/10
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6/10
THE "GOOD" KIDS... #not
nikol_829 August 2019
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At first I was really trying to understand the Ani-character and why they gave her such an important role on the show, even though she's just the new girl who didn't even know the whole Hanna-story! Come on guys... let's be honest here! She was a manipulative liar. How did they even let her control the whole gang to blame Monti for Bryce's murder... Oh and one other thing! Although she fell for Bryce and saw the good in him, because he was getting help and trying to become a better person, she blamed Monti just like that for a murder he didn't commit, who by the way was just as troubled and hurt as Bryce. Don't get me wrong! I'm not saying that he wouldn't have to pay for what he did to Tyler. All I'm saying is that they try so hard on this show to pass the right messages and at the end all we saw were two "good" kids to observe Bryce drowning without even blinking and the "bad" boy, who needed so much help, taking the blame for a murder. Don't get me started on Alex... Not only aggressive and suicidal, but now a murderer as well. However, he walks free just because he has good friends and deserves to get help, to become a better person, to move on with his life! Oki-doki guys...
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5/10
Ani?
michellepasman25 August 2019
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Ani is a getting on my nerves. She is nosy, two-faced and a liar. Had to try 4 times to watch the series and get past her annoyingness.

I just want the old gang back without her.
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10/10
Love this show!
laurazacher-8193824 June 2020
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It's deep. It's dark. It's sad.

Season 1 had to get my hooked. By Season 2 I couldn't stop. Season 3 was completely different. Ani was super annoying but I got used to her being there. It makes sense since some characters left/graduated then a new one had to be introduced and it made the Bryce case super interesting. Season 3 was my favourite. Season 4 I was mad with Clay but it brings awareness to PTSD etc. The last episode I cried the whole time. A belly aching cry.

Justin Foley - You go down in history as one of the best characters on TV. I fell in love with you and not because you're broken or needed fixing. Everyone on the show needed that. I grieve for you and what should have been. But its so poetic how this story came full circle. If it wasn't for one person's actions then none of this story would've happened.
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7/10
New Girl Sucks!!!!
rahulbatra23 August 2019
I have seen 2 episodes of S3 and I cannot stand Ani...It took 2 seasons to understand all the characters and they are giving more screentime to the new chick, it doesn't work that way.
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4/10
This Ani character has to go
ageiger-3157826 August 2019
I have never written a review on here before, but use it religiously when watching something new. For people like me I felt like I needed to write a review about season 3. I am only giving it a four because season one and two were actually good. But season 3 is so disappointing, and makes my rating that low. This new character Ani is horrible! Everything about her is annoying, her voice, her personality, her lies, EVERYTHING. She came out of left field, doesn't even fit with the original characters. She has absolutely nothing to do with Hannah, which was the original point of this show. It's just very disappointing and she should of never been brought into the group.
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