- Member of the All-American Big Band, made up of expert musicians from recording studios and Broadway shows.
- He started a band while serving in the Navy during World War II and later toured the Midwest with bands before landing in New York.
It was when he joined the Honey Dreamers, a singing group that appeared on radio and early television shows, that he met Buffalo Bob Smith and became a clown. As a musician and band leader, in recent years, his All-American Big Band appeared on Friday nights at New York's Birdland jazz club. - In the late 1940s, he joined a singing group out of Chicago called the Honey Dreamers that appeared on radio and early television programs such as "The Ed Sullivan Show."
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